sbc spacer bearings

Discussion in 'Rotating Assemblies' started by grumpyvette, Apr 13, 2010.

  1. grumpyvette

    grumpyvette Administrator Staff Member

    keep in mind that when you go to order SPACER BEARINGS, they are comonly available it two distinct types

    ONE type , is for fitting the early small journal 283-327 cranks in the later 350 blocks
    Clevite MS1110H Performance Race Series SBC Main Bearings (283/350) GM Small Block Main Spacer Set


    Clevite Spacer Bearings PT# MS1110H
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cle-ms1110h
    Brand:Clevite Engine Parts

    Manufacturer's Part Number:MS1110H

    Part Type:Main Bearings

    Product Line:Clevite H-Series Main Bearings

    Summit Racing Part Number:CLE-MS1110H

    UPC:027067775306

    Bearing Usage:performance

    Grooved Bearing:Yes

    Groove Location:Upper

    Groove Style:1/2

    Bearing Material:Tri-metal, TM-77

    Quantity:Sold as a set of 5.

    Notes:Spacer-type bearing made to adapt an old-style 1967 and earlier small block small journal crankshaft to a newer-style 1968-2002 small block with the large main journal blocks. Will not fit 400 blocks.

    THESE SPACERS ALLOW A 350 CRANK IN A 400 BLOCK
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    a second type , is for fitting the later journal 350 and 327 cranks in the later 400 sbc blocks

    Brand:COMP Cams

    Manufacturer's Part Number:5620

    Part Type:Main Bearing Spacer Kits

    Product Line:COMP Cams Bearing Spacers

    Summit Racing Part Number:CCA-5620

    UPC:036584120018

    Bearing Spacer Material:Steel

    Main Bearings Included:No

    Machine Work Required:No

    Quantity:Sold as a set.

    Notes:Designed to be used in conjunction with 350 bearings to install a small block Chevrolet 350 crankshaft into a 400 block.
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    350 crank in 400 block spacers
    http://www.raceeng.com/p-7690-brg-space ... 0-blk.aspx

    http://www.raceeng.com/c-151-race-engineering.aspx

    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Main-Bear ... k,533.html

    http://www.kmjent.com/cart/product.php?productid=1816

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/King-Sma ... 5005r23799



    related info

    http://www.mortec.com/journal.htm

    http://www.mortec.com/borstrok.htm

    http://www.mortec.com/cranks.htm

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/bearing-clearances.2726/#post-7077


    bearing sources
    http://www.northernautoparts.com/part/cb-ms909p1

    http://www.roushyatesparts.com/clevite-main-bearing-set-p/cle-ms-909h-10.htm

    http://catalog.mahle-aftermarket.com/na/modules/motorComponent/detail.xhtml?filterId=563740

    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cle-ms829h

    http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/connec...s-bb/572-connecting-rod-bearing-kit/88961556/

    https://www.kanter.com/productdetai...CategoryID=31&ProductCode=1660&Router=Gallery




    http://www.flatlanderracing.com/clevmrbearings.html

    http://www.rpmmachine.com/clevite-bearing-kits.shtml

    http://www.kingbearings.com/advantages.html

    Chevy Crankshaft Journal Sizes
    Chevy V-8 Crankshaft Journal Sizes

    There is a lot of misinformation on the internet about these numbers. We have taken the time to verify the data as much as possible. There still may be errors. Please lets us know if you find one.

    Journal sizes are factory standard sizes. Your crankshaft journals may have been previously cut down by a machine shop. Make sure the crank you have is matched to your block. Blocks were made with specific journal sizes. Putting a small or medium journal, small-block crank into a medium or large journal, small-block block requires crank bearing spacers or special thick, aftermarket bearings

    MEASSURE CAREFULLY DON,T ASSUME OR GUESS REMEMBER THE
    \ 302 and 327 engines were produced in both journal sizes, and yes you can use under or over size main bearings with the spacers if your cranks had the journals polished under size, or you want a bit more clearance,obviously checking with precision meassuring tools and PLASTI-GAUGE is rather MANDATORY

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...earances-and-journal-surface.9955/#post-38385

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/bearing-clearances.2726/#post-26440

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/precision-measuring-tools.1390/#post-3423

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ifying-clearances-on-bearings.1026/#post-1900

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...uring-crank-bearing-journals.5478/#post-16429

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    Chevy Small Block Journal Sizes
    Gen. I, Small Journal
    C.I.D. Main Rod
    265 2.30 2.00
    283 2.30 2.00
    302 2.30 2.00
    327 2.30 2.00
    Gen. I, Medium Journal (Includes Vortec 305,350 to 1998.)
    C.I.D. Main Rod
    262 2.45 2.10
    267 2.45 2.10
    302 2.45 2.10
    305 2.45 2.10
    307 2.45 2.10
    327 2.45 2.10
    350 2.45 2.10
    Gen. I, Large Journal
    C.I.D. Main Rod

    400 2.65 2.10

    383, Gen. I, Non-Factory

    Gen. I, 400 Crank in a Gen. I, 350 Block. Crank mains cut down.
    C.I.D. Main Rod
    383 2.45 2.10
    377, Gen. I, Non-Factory

    Gen. I, 350 Crank in a Gen. I, 400 Block. Spacer or Thick mains bearings.
    C.I.D. Main Rod
    377 2.10
    Gen. II, Medium Journal

    Includes: L99 265, LT1 350, LT4 350
    C.I.D. Main Rod
    265 2.45 2.10
    305 2.45 2.10
    350 2.45 2.10
    302, Gen. II, Non-Factory

    Gen. II, 265 L99 Crank in a Gen. II, 350 Block.
    C.I.D. Main Rod
    302 2.45 2.10
    Gen. III
     
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  2. grumpyvette

    grumpyvette Administrator Staff Member

    I just got an e-mail asking what to do if you find that the blocks oil feed passage holes don,t line up exactly right with the holes in the oil feed holes in bearings shells?
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    well different manufacturers have different bearings and you may want to find a different brand or part number bearing before you go modifying any component or the block,but I generally use CLEVITE (H) series bearings and I usually find and off set is minimal.
    Ive rarely seen the oil feed passages off by more than 1/16" but Ive heard of them being off by 1/8" with some bearing sets, and know that with some other engines than the BBC, SBC, and PONTIAC engines I generally build they can be much further off.
    since blocks are cast and the machining is done indexed off the crank center line the oil passage locations tend to be very slightly different in each block casting.
    the option youll generally have is to either open up the passage in the block to match the bearing shell which is generally the route most guys will take if the off set is minimal by running a counter sink bit into the opening in the oil feed passage or by using a dremel, or die grinder tool with a burr to elongate the opening on only one side to match the bearings oil feed hole.
    you generally won,t do much to the bearing shell itself other than in some limited cases opening the oil feed hole slightly if its in the lower groove in an upper main cap bearing as bearings are fairly easy to distort.
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    if you are forced to make minor changes Id suggest blocking the oil feed passage with a bit of paraffin wax then carefully cleaning after wards with a rifle bore brush, high pressure air and solvent, paraffin wax has the advantage of melting into a harmless liquid that will mix with oil if a small amounts left UN-intentionally in an oil passage
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    USE YOUR PLASTIGAUGE AND PRECISSION MEASSURING TOOLS , MEASSURE CLEARANCES AND BE SURE YOUR NOT BINDING< ANYPLACE
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    http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/181 ... g-install/

    viewtopic.php?f=53&t=2726&hilit=bearings+clearances

    viewtopic.php?f=54&t=52

    http://thmotorsports.com/clevite_77/cle ... 62379.aspx
     
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  3. Grumpy

    Grumpy The Grumpy Grease Monkey Staff Member

    RELATED ENGINE ASSEMBLY THREADS
    NEVER GUESS, DEAL IN PROVEN FACT!
    Id get out the plasti-gauge and check clearances, don,t guess , know exactly what your dealing with!
    if the clearance falls in spec and the bearings look decent they can be re-used, but its foolish to do so if they look overly dirty, worn or don't have the correct clearances
    always accurately measure the crank main journals, and remember the crank and block bearing sizes on a 400 sbc and 350 smc are different as are the early 283-327 sbc

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    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...earances-and-journal-surface.9955/#post-38385

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/bearing-clearances.2726/#post-26440
    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/precision-measuring-tools.1390/#post-52469

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/storing-an-engine-block.12262/#post-66693

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ed-holes-in-bearings-shells.10750/#post-64733

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...connecting-rods-pistons.247/page-2#post-57772

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/rod-bolt-mics-stretch-gauges.989/#post-51199

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...nk-durring-short-blk-assembly.852/#post-39417

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...u-still-buy-multi-packs-of-plasti-gauge.4946/

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/bearings-and-oil-related-info.374/#post-1103

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...ing-failure-info-related-info.1138/#post-2293

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/thrust-bearing-wear.619/#post-16818

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/obtaining-desired-clearances.4324/#post-11404

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/bearing-install-tips.3449/#post-9130

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/rotating-assembly-bearings.9527/#post-35037

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...d-side-clearance-dont-assume.4690/#post-18940

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/can-you-reuse-bearings.5544/#post-16776

    http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...uring-crank-bearing-journals.5478/#post-16429
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2017

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