Which would you choose?

Admittedly, I'm kind of lost and confused with this thread. Are you trying to build a 10 second drag car you can drive to the store, a restomoded GTO street car with a rebuilt stock 60's engine that might see the strip, or something in between?

R&R guy has been the subject of many complaints over the years. While I believe he's got knowledge and engine building skills the proliferation of complaints is too much to be ignored IMO. Every business has a customer here and there that isn't happy for one reason or another but not the number he has. There are several well known Pontiac builders available who have good reputations and business practices, I would use one of them.
 
I feel like an idiot. I drove one of his accomplishments a couple of years ago and I was impressed by the chassis dyno report my friend had done locally. Then I went by another member here that seems to mirror each other, so I didn't do any further checking. I just got done checking out BBB complaints and more, My screwup, but you saved my butt - thank you. When you get a chance I would like to get the other referrals.

Absolutely no drag car, has to be a street car. The most important part getting this GTO is that it must be an AC car with no or very little rust. The closest thing to a good deal came without an engine/drivetrain. I was going for an LS motor but unless it's a high quality restomod, which costs a fortune, I'll be upside down for this build. Research shows 65's with nom but with appropriate replacement like a 389 and bigger have been selling north of $30,000 as a driver grade #2 and better (LS swaps in less than show or a #1 can get sold in that price range but can take much longer). I want to know I'll be even or be ahead which I'll be if I can get a good Pontiac block (built for street performance aiming at 550 hp or more) for $18,000 or less, hopefully closer to $15,000 would be nicer.
I'm looking for better than original performance for a older GTO would put me in the 12 sec range and aim for bragging rights with a setup of 10.99 or quicker for later if need be. I know better what can be done and for what cost if I work in an LS2, 3 or an LQ9 but as I mentioned above . . . .
 
Oh year April is the first big basket order that is open for show chrome. Hurried, explained better later.
 
I can only speak anecdotally, but I've had many late model used perf cars over the years.
Mostly stock, tuned my myself, and resold shortly after street racing friends and foe.
I had a 1970 Judge, 455 automatic and it was good, but a strong 350 H.P. 400, 4 speed GTO would usually take me by a bit.
However, I've had 3, 428 Grand Prix automatics, 1969-70, and they would clean up on the others.
428's are my favorite all time Pontiac engine as they were always fast, but not flashy.
I don't think the G body G.Ps had any engine callouts, so they were a genuine sleeper back in the day.

Thanks
Randy
 
Those 428s came only 2 ways. One was 375 hp, 510 torque with 10.5:1 comp. the other was a bit higher compression with rated 390 hp/515 ft. Ibs. Swap out the crank with one from a 455, install a modest cam, tune and it's one hell of a motor that drops into any Pontiac like it was born there. I would love to know why Pontiac made so many variations of the same motor, seems crazy to me.
 
Chevy was more restrained, 1970 they only made 250, 255, 300, 350, 360 and 370 H.P. 350 Engines !!

396/400/402's were only made in 265, 300, 325, 330, 350, 360, two different 375's, and 425 H.P. Engines

427's has to settle for 335, 385, 390, 400, 425, 430 and 435 H.P. Engines.

327's were 210, 235, 250, 275, 300, 325, 340, 350, 360, 365 and 375 H.P Engines.

Darn Pontiac only had two 428 Engines

Just teasing!!
Thanks
Randy

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You won't spend the money to build a 10-second car.
I have donated to this forum in the past.
Amounts to around $100.00.
I got used License plates and an old wall clock from you Richard.

I so sick of LS.
CHASSIS DYNO QUEENS AND DO NOTHING .

GAY .
 
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