If you only lube a few hundred cast bullets a year, Id say buy the commercial lube sticks as its not worth the effort to make up batches of lube, but if you load thousands of cast bullets, then yes its well worth the effort and you can improve on most commercial lube results, and save some cash making your own lube, but its just not worth the effort or cost of doing it for a few hundred bullets a year, but once your casting bullets in larger batches that easily fill several gallon plastic containers , several times a year ,its a different deal.
If your adding your home brew lube to your bullet sizer, you can either make the effort to force it in in chunks or you can simply heat some to the point its a semi liquid and pour it in and let it cool.
I usually find I don,t have the patients to wait while I melt and let it cool and find I just open the cylinder , force in chunks and use a hair drier to heat it up a bit to make cramming the chunks in a bit easier, the air pockets will be removed as the piston forcing the lube thru the sizer compressed the lube chunks , but Ive also found I can drop a muffin paper full of lube from my supply into a 1 quart aluminum pan I got for $1 at a yard sale that I place on my lead melter while it heats up, and that solves that problem.
and youll be VERY familiar with the process of refilling a lube/sizer once your bullet count is measured in several gallon containers per session.
use of a LUBE SIZER with the correct punch and sizing dies helps consistency and accuracy.
don,t sweat the exact percentages as long as you get reasonably close, add more bees wax to increase hardness
40% bees wax ......2.5 lbs
30% moly axle grease...1 lb
20% alox works great- 16 0z(1 lb)
10% paraffin wax ''1/2 lb
then add one 1-2 oz pack of MOLY powder,
too each 5.5 lbs of lube mix,
a custom mix Ive found works very well is BY VOLUME , mix 40% BEES WAX ,
http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletNotes.htm
HERES A GREAT DEAL OF RELATED INFO
http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_Contents.htm
http://www.lasc.us/Brennan_5-0_BulletLubes.htm
http://www.lasc.us/LubeIngredients.htm
30% moly axle grease
OR
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/183655 ... owder-6-oz
OR BOTH
https://lsstuff.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/466811 ... -oz-liquid
20% liquid alox melted and blended as its heated,
this component is rather expensive but its rather critical
this formula allows about 1700fps in my 45/70 and 44mag marlin rifles with cast bullets, you simply melt and blend it then pour it into a muffin pan with muffin papers to form cakes of soft lube that can be stored for years or used by simply pressing the crumbled cakes into the lube-sizer or melting them easily in a small sauce pan and pouring the contents into the lube sizer reservoir
1/2 lb of paraffin
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gulf-Wax...MItd_30tDu4wIViZ-fCh0dHwnyEAQYBCABEgId-vD_BwE
and heat and stir, stir into the molten wax/ grease mix,
I generally use a muffin pan and tin foil muffin cups,
I pour a ladle to 3/4 fill each cup/muffin paper,
and allow it too cool and solidify over a few hours
if you prefer a stiffer consistency simply add 1 lb of carnauba wax,
and leave out or leave in the paraffin wax ,
leaving it out is marginally harder,
leaving it in, marginally softer,
either works
https://www.camdengrey.com/essentia...MI2a_P4vno6QIVycDACh0qoQBWEAQYASABEgJyVPD_BwE
to the list of ingredients listed above when you melt and mix the lube,
but don,t reduce the moly or bees wax, or moly axle grease,
and keep stirring the mix when its molten,
if you don,t the moly powder settle out in the molten mix,
as it tends to sink and you'll get an inconsistent resulting lubricant mix,
in the muffin papers/ so keep stirring the mixed lube while its hot as you pour the lube into the muffin papers to cool
keep in mind the idea is to keep the micro moly and axle grease in a blended coating suspension with the bees and other waxes so it forms a semi stiff , and semi sticky lube that fills the lube groves on the cast bullets,
this will form a pressurized and very slick film that protects and seals the rifling,
under extreme pressure and velocity and greatly increases accuracy, and protects and cleans the bore, preventing any leading accumulating, you can shoot hundreds of shots with this and the bore remains clean and accurate.
this results in a medium soft lube that flows easily in the lube sizer, the proper lube and gas check use,
provides a molten grease surface between the bullet and rifling making the bore wear almost non-existent when used,
and leaves a micro moly coating in the bore further reducing wear
I find a 50 caliber ammo can, or two, full of the resulting bullet lubricant cakes,
this lasts me about 6-8 months or up too a year or so,
before I need to mix and cast more, but it will last for decades in storage,
but I probably cast and lube,
more bullets in a year than most guys do in a decade.
when you need to use some you open the reservoir in the lube sizer and simply force chunks of the lube into the lube sizer , a hair drier can be used to melt the chunks of lube
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/i ... 0157631412
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1012864762?pid=183655
btw if your going to cast bullets wait till the molds clean and hot then lightly spray the mold interior surface with moly spray, as it helps the cast bullets fall easily from the mold and makes casting process faster and more consistent. and spraying the cast bullets with moly spray after they are sized and lubed , and before they are loaded into the cases,certainly seems to reduce barrel fouling
Ive used that lube in my 44 mag and 45/70 lever action carbines with cast bullets for decades , while I rarely exceed 1800fps I also get almost ZERO leading in the rifling and very good accuracy
any cast bullet is going to require a coat of lubricant or bullet lube after or during the sizing process
the lube forms a lubricant barrier between the bullet and bore rifling thats REQUIRED to prevent leading with cast bullets.
if you want real consistency youll want to use a lube sizer rather than tumble lube cast bullets in most cases
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...re-a-more-durable-lube-sizer.9299/#post-33595
youll need a lube sizer and dies and a top punch matching the bullets to be lubed and sized
a custom mix Ive found works very well is BY VOLUME , mix 40% BEES WAX ,
http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletNotes.htm
HERES A GREAT DEAL OF RELATED INFO
http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_Contents.htm
http://www.lasc.us/Brennan_5-0_BulletLubes.htm
http://www.lasc.us/LubeIngredients.htm
30% moly axle grease
OR
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/183655 ... owder-6-oz
OR BOTH
https://lsstuff.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/466811 ... -oz-liquid
20% liquid alox melted and blended as its heated,
this component is rather expensive but its rather critical
this formula allows about 1700fps in my 45/70 and 44mag marlin rifles with cast bullets, you simply melt and blend it then pour it into a muffin pan with muffin papers to form cakes of soft lube that can be stored for years or used by simply pressing the crumbled cakes into the lube-sizer or melting them easily in a small sauce pan and pouring the contents into the lube sizer reservoir
1/2 lb of paraffin
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gulf-Wax...MItd_30tDu4wIViZ-fCh0dHwnyEAQYBCABEgId-vD_BwE
personally I find a 1 quart cheap sauce pan you can get at some yard sale for $1 that you set on the lead melter will heat the lube up so you can pour it into the lube sizer, when its low on grease, but once filled its good for a couple hundred bullets being lubed.
you might not realize it but a good lube and the correct bullet alloy, and sizing allows you. in many cases to shoot cast bullets without any appreciable leading in the rifling.
I generally make up batches of lube about once or twice a year in about 2 gallon volume size batches, once made I pour the lube in muffin papers in a muffin pan to cool and the cups are easily stored on a shelf.
you can make filling, the lube sizer fairly easy if you buy a hot plate and a 1 cup-to-1/2 quart sauce pan with an insulated handle,these rarely cost over $20 total for both and if you hit a yard sale maybe $10 total.
you simply use a knife to cut a few chunks of lube out of the storage container,or drop a few full muffin size chunks in the sauce pan, turn the hot plate on low and after a few minute you open the lube sizer and pour in the lube, my lube sizer takes just a bit less than one muffin size chunk, but obviously both muffin pans and sizer,s are made in various sizes.
youll find you can judge when to start heating the lube with experience as you see the lube sizer piston descend in the reservoir, you can lift the top plate to inspect the piston location
BTW THE TIN-FOIL baking cups TYPE WORK BEST
related info
http://www.castbullet.com/makeit/lube.htm
http://www.lasc.us/LubeIngredients.htm
http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=441
http://www.voodoo-lube.com/
http://www.lsstuff.com/store/
If your adding your home brew lube to your bullet sizer, you can either make the effort to force it in in chunks or you can simply heat some to the point its a semi liquid and pour it in and let it cool.
I usually find I don,t have the patients to wait while I melt and let it cool and find I just open the cylinder , force in chunks and use a hair drier to heat it up a bit to make cramming the chunks in a bit easier, the air pockets will be removed as the piston forcing the lube thru the sizer compressed the lube chunks , but Ive also found I can drop a muffin paper full of lube from my supply into a 1 quart aluminum pan I got for $1 at a yard sale that I place on my lead melter while it heats up, and that solves that problem.
and youll be VERY familiar with the process of refilling a lube/sizer once your bullet count is measured in several gallon containers per session.
use of a LUBE SIZER with the correct punch and sizing dies helps consistency and accuracy.
don,t sweat the exact percentages as long as you get reasonably close, add more bees wax to increase hardness
40% bees wax ......2.5 lbs
30% moly axle grease...1 lb
20% alox works great- 16 0z(1 lb)
10% paraffin wax ''1/2 lb
then add one 1-2 oz pack of MOLY powder,
too each 5.5 lbs of lube mix,
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a custom mix Ive found works very well is BY VOLUME , mix 40% BEES WAX ,
http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletNotes.htm
HERES A GREAT DEAL OF RELATED INFO
http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_Contents.htm
http://www.lasc.us/Brennan_5-0_BulletLubes.htm
http://www.lasc.us/LubeIngredients.htm
30% moly axle grease
OR
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/183655 ... owder-6-oz
OR BOTH
https://lsstuff.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/466811 ... -oz-liquid
20% liquid alox melted and blended as its heated,
this component is rather expensive but its rather critical
this formula allows about 1700fps in my 45/70 and 44mag marlin rifles with cast bullets, you simply melt and blend it then pour it into a muffin pan with muffin papers to form cakes of soft lube that can be stored for years or used by simply pressing the crumbled cakes into the lube-sizer or melting them easily in a small sauce pan and pouring the contents into the lube sizer reservoir
1/2 lb of paraffin
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gulf-Wax...MItd_30tDu4wIViZ-fCh0dHwnyEAQYBCABEgId-vD_BwE
and heat and stir, stir into the molten wax/ grease mix,
I generally use a muffin pan and tin foil muffin cups,
I pour a ladle to 3/4 fill each cup/muffin paper,
and allow it too cool and solidify over a few hours
if you prefer a stiffer consistency simply add 1 lb of carnauba wax,
and leave out or leave in the paraffin wax ,
leaving it out is marginally harder,
leaving it in, marginally softer,
either works
https://www.camdengrey.com/essentia...MI2a_P4vno6QIVycDACh0qoQBWEAQYASABEgJyVPD_BwE
to the list of ingredients listed above when you melt and mix the lube,
but don,t reduce the moly or bees wax, or moly axle grease,
and keep stirring the mix when its molten,
if you don,t the moly powder settle out in the molten mix,
as it tends to sink and you'll get an inconsistent resulting lubricant mix,
in the muffin papers/ so keep stirring the mixed lube while its hot as you pour the lube into the muffin papers to cool
keep in mind the idea is to keep the micro moly and axle grease in a blended coating suspension with the bees and other waxes so it forms a semi stiff , and semi sticky lube that fills the lube groves on the cast bullets,
this will form a pressurized and very slick film that protects and seals the rifling,
under extreme pressure and velocity and greatly increases accuracy, and protects and cleans the bore, preventing any leading accumulating, you can shoot hundreds of shots with this and the bore remains clean and accurate.
this results in a medium soft lube that flows easily in the lube sizer, the proper lube and gas check use,
provides a molten grease surface between the bullet and rifling making the bore wear almost non-existent when used,
and leaves a micro moly coating in the bore further reducing wear
I find a 50 caliber ammo can, or two, full of the resulting bullet lubricant cakes,
this lasts me about 6-8 months or up too a year or so,
before I need to mix and cast more, but it will last for decades in storage,
but I probably cast and lube,
more bullets in a year than most guys do in a decade.
when you need to use some you open the reservoir in the lube sizer and simply force chunks of the lube into the lube sizer , a hair drier can be used to melt the chunks of lube
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/i ... 0157631412
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1012864762?pid=183655
btw if your going to cast bullets wait till the molds clean and hot then lightly spray the mold interior surface with moly spray, as it helps the cast bullets fall easily from the mold and makes casting process faster and more consistent. and spraying the cast bullets with moly spray after they are sized and lubed , and before they are loaded into the cases,certainly seems to reduce barrel fouling
Ive used that lube in my 44 mag and 45/70 lever action carbines with cast bullets for decades , while I rarely exceed 1800fps I also get almost ZERO leading in the rifling and very good accuracy
any cast bullet is going to require a coat of lubricant or bullet lube after or during the sizing process
the lube forms a lubricant barrier between the bullet and bore rifling thats REQUIRED to prevent leading with cast bullets.
if you want real consistency youll want to use a lube sizer rather than tumble lube cast bullets in most cases
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...re-a-more-durable-lube-sizer.9299/#post-33595
youll need a lube sizer and dies and a top punch matching the bullets to be lubed and sized
a custom mix Ive found works very well is BY VOLUME , mix 40% BEES WAX ,
http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletNotes.htm
HERES A GREAT DEAL OF RELATED INFO
http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_Contents.htm
http://www.lasc.us/Brennan_5-0_BulletLubes.htm
http://www.lasc.us/LubeIngredients.htm
30% moly axle grease
OR
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/183655 ... owder-6-oz
OR BOTH
https://lsstuff.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/466811 ... -oz-liquid
20% liquid alox melted and blended as its heated,
this component is rather expensive but its rather critical
this formula allows about 1700fps in my 45/70 and 44mag marlin rifles with cast bullets, you simply melt and blend it then pour it into a muffin pan with muffin papers to form cakes of soft lube that can be stored for years or used by simply pressing the crumbled cakes into the lube-sizer or melting them easily in a small sauce pan and pouring the contents into the lube sizer reservoir
1/2 lb of paraffin
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gulf-Wax...MItd_30tDu4wIViZ-fCh0dHwnyEAQYBCABEgId-vD_BwE
personally I find a 1 quart cheap sauce pan you can get at some yard sale for $1 that you set on the lead melter will heat the lube up so you can pour it into the lube sizer, when its low on grease, but once filled its good for a couple hundred bullets being lubed.
you might not realize it but a good lube and the correct bullet alloy, and sizing allows you. in many cases to shoot cast bullets without any appreciable leading in the rifling.
I generally make up batches of lube about once or twice a year in about 2 gallon volume size batches, once made I pour the lube in muffin papers in a muffin pan to cool and the cups are easily stored on a shelf.
you can make filling, the lube sizer fairly easy if you buy a hot plate and a 1 cup-to-1/2 quart sauce pan with an insulated handle,these rarely cost over $20 total for both and if you hit a yard sale maybe $10 total.
you simply use a knife to cut a few chunks of lube out of the storage container,or drop a few full muffin size chunks in the sauce pan, turn the hot plate on low and after a few minute you open the lube sizer and pour in the lube, my lube sizer takes just a bit less than one muffin size chunk, but obviously both muffin pans and sizer,s are made in various sizes.
youll find you can judge when to start heating the lube with experience as you see the lube sizer piston descend in the reservoir, you can lift the top plate to inspect the piston location
BTW THE TIN-FOIL baking cups TYPE WORK BEST
related info
http://www.castbullet.com/makeit/lube.htm
http://www.lasc.us/LubeIngredients.htm
http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=441
http://www.voodoo-lube.com/
http://www.lsstuff.com/store/
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