when you go to buy overhead florescent lamp fixtures the newer style uses the smaller diam. bulbs that use less electricity and provide more light, they will be much cheaper to operate in the long term, I bought 21 48" quad fixtures, btw the T5 and T8 day light style bulbs have some advantages
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Metalux-GR...ommon-4-ft-Actual-23-75-in-x-47-93-in/3014954
https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/2354/F-21T5830ECO.html?gclid=CIeHwdCli9ACFQcIaQodmLUMtg
https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/22783/F-39T5841HO.html?gclid=CJGN5qimi9ACFQIdaQod_ksGsA
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hampton-Bay-Industrial-60-in-White-Energy-Star-Ceiling-Fan-52860/204507386?cm_mmc=Shopping|THD|G|0|G-BASE-PLA-D27L-CeilingFans|&gclid=CKrz1b-flNACFQyNaQodPOcGgw&gclsrc=aw.ds
to start then added a bunch more lighting, by adding dual 150 watt motion sensor flood lamp fixtures, as my older eyes require good lighting to duplicate near daylight levels to see clearly in the shop, after talking with several electricians I made several choices based on needed lighting and component cost.
obviously youll need a different arangement if the shops a different size, or height but to give some ideas,my shop ceiling rafters are at 16 ft height I spaced the lights so your always within 6 ft of being directly under the lights,
if you draw a 36 ft x 85 ft rectangle and space out three rows of 7 light fixtures evenly your see the basic pattern I used in the shop then I installed 12, evenly spaced dual 150 watt flood lamp motion sensor lights on the walls at a 10ft height with dual 150 watt bulb flood lights, thats two on each end wall and 3 on each long wall evenly spaced,plus two more near the car lift, this provides a good deal extra light, but the flood lights only come on when theres movement near them and only remain on for about 15 minutes after movement ceases to be detected.
and it is almost , absurdly obvious too most guys with any experience, that youll need a few easily portable individual mechanics lights, so you can position a individual , or even several drop light source,(s) directly where its needed at times. theres also a dual 110 volt electrical outlet on the wall every 10 feet in any direction from any location along the perimeter walls and a couple 220 volt outlets where I thought I might use welders , my auto lift,or compressors etc.
any shop you build will be much more user friendly if you have plenty of lights ceiling fans and electrical outlets
I also have these portable lights,when required
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one thing Ive found to be really useful is mounting motion sensor lights inside the shop along the shop walls about every 15 feet ,
Ive got 8 of the dual 100 watt motion sensor lights along the inner walls of the shop mounted at about 10 feet up that supply a noticeable increase in lighting over and above what the 21 quad florescent fixtures mounted on the ceiling supply
these lights give you a different angle lighting and make seeing what your doing a good deal easier, because no mater how many overhead lights you have ,if you've got a lift or your under the hood or the cars on jack stands , the lighting is not ideal, so having light coming from several different angles from the walls of the shop helps as does having a few easily movable drop lights
https://www.ebay.com/itm/120v-120-V...amp-Portable-Hanging-Flashlight-/192377545742
https://www.harborfreight.com/headlamp-with-swivel-lens-45807.html
at least in theory these bulbs provide more light at about 18% of the electrical cost of conventional incandescent bulbs and last 10 times longer
shop lighting is critical to being able to work on engines and cars, Ive got several portable flood lamp fixtures, that come in handy, Ive got several drop lights for use under the car, obviously you've got options.
you can mount lights like these spaced about every 6-8 feet in the ceiling and get decent lighting at the shop floor but don,t forget that you can also mount these on the walls or hanging on brackets at an angle in the wall/ceiling corners if your shops got enough ceiling height , to provide a bit more all around day light type lighting
KEEP IN MIND MOST OF THESE PICTURES ARE YEARS OLD AND TAKEN DURING CONSTRUCTION OR WHEN WE WERE JUST STUFFING IN TOOLS TO GET THEM OUT OF THE RAIN DURING THE SWAP FROM THE OLD SHOP TO THE NEW SO DISREGUARD THE SLOPPY TOOL PLACEMENT< THERES BEEN MANY CHANGES
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1 ... ogId=10053
http://chamberspowerproduct.rtrk.com/?s ... kw=6192378
I added additional lighting since this picture was taken, early in the construction process.
BTW, If you have a larger project requiring a good deal of supplies , you can, and should save a few bucks and get whole sale pricing,
look up and visit a couple different local electrician supply business,s and get competitive bids thats what I did,
when you order quite a few 500 ft rolls of 10 ga wire, 1000 ft of 3/4" ,conduit, conduit fittings, lots of switches, electrical boxes , wire nuts etc. and 20 plus florescent fixtures, they are happy to give you a decent price and deliver
theres no place in the shop more than 8 feet from being directly under a 4 bulb 4 foot high intensity fixture mounted on my 16 foot rafters, and over most of the shop your within 6 ft of being directly under a light fixture plus Ive added 10 dual bulb 150watt flood light motion sensor lights , mounted at the 10 foot level, so that the lights go on when they sense movement, this adds both more light and light at a different angle, and lights that don,t stay on if your not in the immediate are for more than 15 minutes, the picture looks far darker than the shop actually is
the picture above was taken before two more rows of 60"ceiling fans and the 12 dual 150 watt,motion detecting flood lamp fixtures , mounted at 10 ft height, were installed
the led versions use less current and last longer and require no bulbs that burn out, if these had been available when I built my shop Id have used 30 of them and saved money and had better lighting
https://www.samsclub.com/sams/linkable-10pk/prod21062241.ip?xid=plp:p123roduct:1:1&Pid=CSE_Connex_
these LED (florescent replacement 48" bulbs ) use 60% less current to produce more light
https://greenlightdepot.com/products/4ft-15w-led-linear-tube-bypass-tube?variant=43870975236
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theres no place on the floor of my shop thats more than 8 feet from the edge of a quad light in the ceiling
the shops 36 ft deep and 75 feet long theres 21, 4ft long and 2 ft wide lamps mounted to the rafters evenly spaced in 3 rows of 7 fixtures plus theres 8 motion sensor flood lamps with dual 100 watt flood lamps that turn on if they sense motion near them , the overhead fixtures are switched in groups so only areas in use need to be lit.
KEEP IN MIND YOU DON,T WANT ANYTHING INSTALLED THAT GET HOT ENOUGH TO START FIRES IF LEFT ON OR IN CONTACT WITH FLAMMABLE COMPONENTS or ANYTHING THAT'S EASILY BROKEN in a SHOP, portable lighting MUST be connected to GFI circuits for safety
http://www.shopoutdoorlighting.com/Moti ... 7311205011
http://www.gadgetshack.com/semoal30ftra.html
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question238.htm
http://www.lightinguniverse.com/securit ... tml?st=270
adding motion sensor lights to BOTH the inside and outside of your garage adds to the security
inside your shop Id highly advise use of at least a few mothion sensor flood lights on the walls along with overhead florecent fixtures as the combo of lighting from several angles and levels provides a significant advantage, and the fact that the flood light /motion sensors turn themselves off after 15 minutes of not sensing mothion can potentially save you a good deal on electric bills if your in the habit of occasionally leaving the shop lights on by mistake
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Metalux-GR...ommon-4-ft-Actual-23-75-in-x-47-93-in/3014954
https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/2354/F-21T5830ECO.html?gclid=CIeHwdCli9ACFQcIaQodmLUMtg
https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/22783/F-39T5841HO.html?gclid=CJGN5qimi9ACFQIdaQod_ksGsA
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hampton-Bay-Industrial-60-in-White-Energy-Star-Ceiling-Fan-52860/204507386?cm_mmc=Shopping|THD|G|0|G-BASE-PLA-D27L-CeilingFans|&gclid=CKrz1b-flNACFQyNaQodPOcGgw&gclsrc=aw.ds
to start then added a bunch more lighting, by adding dual 150 watt motion sensor flood lamp fixtures, as my older eyes require good lighting to duplicate near daylight levels to see clearly in the shop, after talking with several electricians I made several choices based on needed lighting and component cost.
obviously youll need a different arangement if the shops a different size, or height but to give some ideas,my shop ceiling rafters are at 16 ft height I spaced the lights so your always within 6 ft of being directly under the lights,
if you draw a 36 ft x 85 ft rectangle and space out three rows of 7 light fixtures evenly your see the basic pattern I used in the shop then I installed 12, evenly spaced dual 150 watt flood lamp motion sensor lights on the walls at a 10ft height with dual 150 watt bulb flood lights, thats two on each end wall and 3 on each long wall evenly spaced,plus two more near the car lift, this provides a good deal extra light, but the flood lights only come on when theres movement near them and only remain on for about 15 minutes after movement ceases to be detected.
and it is almost , absurdly obvious too most guys with any experience, that youll need a few easily portable individual mechanics lights, so you can position a individual , or even several drop light source,(s) directly where its needed at times. theres also a dual 110 volt electrical outlet on the wall every 10 feet in any direction from any location along the perimeter walls and a couple 220 volt outlets where I thought I might use welders , my auto lift,or compressors etc.
any shop you build will be much more user friendly if you have plenty of lights ceiling fans and electrical outlets
I also have these portable lights,when required
READ THESE Threads
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=5
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=297
one thing Ive found to be really useful is mounting motion sensor lights inside the shop along the shop walls about every 15 feet ,
Ive got 8 of the dual 100 watt motion sensor lights along the inner walls of the shop mounted at about 10 feet up that supply a noticeable increase in lighting over and above what the 21 quad florescent fixtures mounted on the ceiling supply
these lights give you a different angle lighting and make seeing what your doing a good deal easier, because no mater how many overhead lights you have ,if you've got a lift or your under the hood or the cars on jack stands , the lighting is not ideal, so having light coming from several different angles from the walls of the shop helps as does having a few easily movable drop lights
https://www.ebay.com/itm/120v-120-V...amp-Portable-Hanging-Flashlight-/192377545742
https://www.harborfreight.com/headlamp-with-swivel-lens-45807.html
at least in theory these bulbs provide more light at about 18% of the electrical cost of conventional incandescent bulbs and last 10 times longer
shop lighting is critical to being able to work on engines and cars, Ive got several portable flood lamp fixtures, that come in handy, Ive got several drop lights for use under the car, obviously you've got options.
you can mount lights like these spaced about every 6-8 feet in the ceiling and get decent lighting at the shop floor but don,t forget that you can also mount these on the walls or hanging on brackets at an angle in the wall/ceiling corners if your shops got enough ceiling height , to provide a bit more all around day light type lighting
KEEP IN MIND MOST OF THESE PICTURES ARE YEARS OLD AND TAKEN DURING CONSTRUCTION OR WHEN WE WERE JUST STUFFING IN TOOLS TO GET THEM OUT OF THE RAIN DURING THE SWAP FROM THE OLD SHOP TO THE NEW SO DISREGUARD THE SLOPPY TOOL PLACEMENT< THERES BEEN MANY CHANGES
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1 ... ogId=10053
http://chamberspowerproduct.rtrk.com/?s ... kw=6192378
I added additional lighting since this picture was taken, early in the construction process.
BTW, If you have a larger project requiring a good deal of supplies , you can, and should save a few bucks and get whole sale pricing,
look up and visit a couple different local electrician supply business,s and get competitive bids thats what I did,
when you order quite a few 500 ft rolls of 10 ga wire, 1000 ft of 3/4" ,conduit, conduit fittings, lots of switches, electrical boxes , wire nuts etc. and 20 plus florescent fixtures, they are happy to give you a decent price and deliver
theres no place in the shop more than 8 feet from being directly under a 4 bulb 4 foot high intensity fixture mounted on my 16 foot rafters, and over most of the shop your within 6 ft of being directly under a light fixture plus Ive added 10 dual bulb 150watt flood light motion sensor lights , mounted at the 10 foot level, so that the lights go on when they sense movement, this adds both more light and light at a different angle, and lights that don,t stay on if your not in the immediate are for more than 15 minutes, the picture looks far darker than the shop actually is
the picture above was taken before two more rows of 60"ceiling fans and the 12 dual 150 watt,motion detecting flood lamp fixtures , mounted at 10 ft height, were installed
the led versions use less current and last longer and require no bulbs that burn out, if these had been available when I built my shop Id have used 30 of them and saved money and had better lighting
https://www.samsclub.com/sams/linkable-10pk/prod21062241.ip?xid=plp:p123roduct:1:1&Pid=CSE_Connex_
these LED (florescent replacement 48" bulbs ) use 60% less current to produce more light
https://greenlightdepot.com/products/4ft-15w-led-linear-tube-bypass-tube?variant=43870975236
READ THESE RELATED LINKS
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=705
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=5
http://www.menards.com/main/lighting-fa ... c-6354.htm
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=3110&p=8296#p8296
theres no place on the floor of my shop thats more than 8 feet from the edge of a quad light in the ceiling
the shops 36 ft deep and 75 feet long theres 21, 4ft long and 2 ft wide lamps mounted to the rafters evenly spaced in 3 rows of 7 fixtures plus theres 8 motion sensor flood lamps with dual 100 watt flood lamps that turn on if they sense motion near them , the overhead fixtures are switched in groups so only areas in use need to be lit.
KEEP IN MIND YOU DON,T WANT ANYTHING INSTALLED THAT GET HOT ENOUGH TO START FIRES IF LEFT ON OR IN CONTACT WITH FLAMMABLE COMPONENTS or ANYTHING THAT'S EASILY BROKEN in a SHOP, portable lighting MUST be connected to GFI circuits for safety
http://www.shopoutdoorlighting.com/Moti ... 7311205011
http://www.gadgetshack.com/semoal30ftra.html
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question238.htm
http://www.lightinguniverse.com/securit ... tml?st=270
adding motion sensor lights to BOTH the inside and outside of your garage adds to the security
inside your shop Id highly advise use of at least a few mothion sensor flood lights on the walls along with overhead florecent fixtures as the combo of lighting from several angles and levels provides a significant advantage, and the fact that the flood light /motion sensors turn themselves off after 15 minutes of not sensing mothion can potentially save you a good deal on electric bills if your in the habit of occasionally leaving the shop lights on by mistake
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