The Eaa Witness Pistols

[Grumpy]

the EAA pistols, in general, are an excellent value
the WITNESS LINE, especially the hunter versions ,
in 45 acp and 10mm are exceptionally accurate
https://eaacorp.com/product/witness-elite-stock-ii/

https://eaacorp.com/product/witness-stock-ii-xtreme/

https://eaacorp.com/product/witness-elite-limited/

https://eaacorp.com/product-category/handguns/page/4/

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...cp-consistently-get-the-nod.15978/#post-96370

these EAA witness pistols are priced from about $460-$1400 on most of the options,
in most cases an excellent value for what you get, the basic witness pistol is very accurate,
the more expensive target and hunting pistols with longer slides and barrels tend to be even more accurate
(probably more accurate than most people can fully appreciate)
but some are single action only
https://eaacorp.com/product/witness-hunter/

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I've owned an original witness in the wonder stainless in caliber 45 acp for about 30 years,
its one of the most accurate handguns I own and I would not hesitate to carry one in either 45 acp or 10mm for self-defensive usage.
I'm 6'3" and 250 lbs and I have zero problems carrying a decent handgun in an inside the waistband holster ,
where it's almost invisible under a loose shirt.
I'm a firm believer in the idea that you should be prepared for the less pleasant things that rarely happen,
because sooner or later you might draw the short straw in life,
a concealed carry handgun is like a parachute, you might never need one,
but if you do, and don,t have one immediately at hand you'll very likely never need one or anything else again!
I'm a firm believer in the idea that if you're going to carry a pistol you damn well ought to think through your choice's
and,
ease of concealment is far lower on my priority list than,
will the damn pistol I select function flawlessly and have the accuracy and power required,
to put some carjacker, mugger or drug-crazed moron on the ground with a decent center mass hit or two?
yeah, chances of being mugged are low,
but so is your house catching on fire (YEAH I OWN FIRE ECTINGUISHERs)
and why I pay thousands in home insurance fees every year.
I just can,t see pulling out something easy to conceal like a 7 shot 380 acp with a 3" barrel,
that you can,t consistently hit a pie plate at 15 yards with and expecting it to save my life,
if some aggressive and armed nut attacks me from a few yards away.
fractions of a second count!
effective lethality in a dependable handgun is a pre-requisite ,
easy concealment in a pocket is not!
btw for any handgun you own,
BUY AT LEAST 4 spare magazines and a belt magazine holder
over time it may become very difficult to buy spare magazines
EXAMPLE
my S&W 1006 magazines quadrupled, or more in price and became very hard to locate

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http://www.reloadammo.com/45loads.htm

6.5 grains of unique powder with that 230 grain lee bullet in a 45 ACP pistol works rather well

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[rlphvac]

You are right on the EAA pistols I'm looking into a 3rd one here shortly I have the witness 10mm and a Sargun 9mm and both are nice and reliable but my question Grumpy today a customer told me that he shoots 40 S&W rounds out of his Glock G 20 now I know that they have the same diameter but the way they headspace I didn't think it could fire being away from the hammer about 1/4 inch I've never tried or even thought about it so can it be done?

 

[Grumpy]

can it be done? yeah Ive seen it done,
but its not advised as the extractor is holding the case in place so the firing pin strike that ignites the powder charge.
this almost without doubt will result in occasional malfunctions and may eventually damage the pistol

if you want to shoot both 10mm and 40 S&W in a single hand gun, both ruger and S&W sell revolvers designed to use either ammo.

Ive shot both, the S&W longer barrel version is really nice

 

[rlphvac]

Thank you Grumpy so I was wrong and kind of right I've never used a revolver with moon clips and not sure that I want to but I'm not going to try the 40 in a 10 tgrick

 

[Grumpy]

when I was growing up, most of the adults I knew carried revolvers ,
most of us kids knew it, and dads were expected to provide family security,
if someone kicked in a door, or there were other security issues,
calling the cops was hardly an option as they generally took 30 minutes to show up minimum.
(usually S&W OR COLT 357 mag or (45 acp with 1/2 moon or full 6 cartridge clips)
those 45acp revolvers were very highly regarded as were the 357 mag revolvers
I knew many adults that had them as the primary defensive handgun,
but back then, most homes had a 12 ga that was easily accessed,
and the kids were taught at an early age to keep their little hands off dads shotgun,
unless your dad supervised and you were asked to fetch it, or you suffered an ass whipping.
but back then dads would generally teach gun safety as soon as you showed any interest, in firearms.
certainly, by age 5-7 your dad had brought you out to the local backwoods,
and introduced you to using a single shot 22lr rifle or pistol,
(even most girls were trained in firearm safety and had shot a 22lr rifle,
by age 10, in my area in rural areas of America in the 1950-1960s)

autos were at that time considered too untrustworthy to carry if your life depended on flawless function, with the sole exception being the government 45 acp

it was just recently that the US AIR FORCE SECURITY
switched to semi auto handguns
the air force stuck with revolvers for decades,
as they felt they were easier to train with and
some people say less prone to accidental discharges

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...-cold-war-revolvers-for-new-semi-auto-pistols

 

[rlphvac]

I'm going to try out a G 20 I ordered it this morning do you shoot your cast bullets in your Glock I finally got my dies and stuff to cast a 170 g SWC I cast about 100 of them and loaded with 12.5 gr of Accurate #9 (I ran out of Blue Dot) I haven't made it to the range yet and with it being in the 90s I'm in no hurry but as soon as it cools down I need to do a farm shooting trip to test a bunch of stuff out I recently got a new Tikka 7 mm 08 that I need to break in the barrel and find some loads for it

 

[Grumpy]

currently in my opinion, the pistol in the video above,
is one of the best semi autos built for the money

 

[rlphvac]

I ran some of my cast 170gr SWC with 12.5gr of Accurate#9 I was real happy with the results I run them through my Sig and Ruger 1911s and the EAA witness I'm not sure that I should run them through the Glock when I get it

 

[Grumpy]

the glock may not be as accurate but if you clean it frequently it will function fine

 

[rlphvac]

I don't know why but I think by looking at the polygonal rifleing in the Glocks that it would build up less lead the way the rifleing is

 

[Grumpy]

Im not sure of all the reasons, but the polygon rifling in the glock,
does not seem to be as accurate with some cast bullets as it is with the jacketed versions.
I strongly suspect the typical rifling lands and grooves gets a better grip on the typically softer cast bullets surface.
keep in mind that the frequently slightly softer lead cast bullet alloy is not always softer as the mix ratio of antimony,
tin and lead varies and if properly mixed can be very consistent and much harder, than average.
water quenched 5% tin and 95% ww alloy is at least 20 BHN on average a huge improvement over the nearly pure lead or ww alloy bullets cast and left too air cool

http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-with-bullets-you-made.6802/page-2#post-97280

http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletAlloy.htm

cheap bullets tend to be mostly lead, as added antimony and tin content in the lead alloy you cast with raises the cost
harder alloy with more tin, tends to aid accuracy and consistency in glocks

barrel with polygonal rifling doesn't have the sharp lands and grooves of traditional rifling. Instead,
the inside of the round barrel is shaped more like a polygon.
In theory, there are no grooves through which gas could escape. ...
In reality, especially in the barrels of Glocks, there are still lands and grooves

 

[rlphvac]

I got my G 20 and took it to the range as I expected it to be a Glock squeeze the trigger and it goes bang but I was very surprised I don't know what it is about that one but it felt good and shot good with my 165 gr Sig bullets over some Accurate # 9 I really like this gun a whole lot more than expected

 

[Grumpy]

I carry a glock #20,
10mm for concealed carry, most of the time
its dependable are only requires cleaning and lube,
every other day or so, to remain in top condition,
blued steel requires daily maintenance,
I vastly prefer the wonder stainless finish on my witness,
but prefer the 10mm and its higher capacity mag.
as it holds an extra 6 shots in the glock, over the witness 45 acp

 

[rlphvac]

I picked up a Springfield XDM in 10mm the other and took it out for a spin yesterday it shoots good and has a better trigger than my other Springfield pistols in 9,40,and 45

 

[rlphvac]

I'm going to look for a Lone Wolf barrel for my G20 to see what they have I'm going to keep it 10mm just find one with the different rifeling because all my other 10mms like my 170g cast SWC bullets so thats what my 10mms will be shooting but thats not good for the Glock

 

[Grumpy]

https://www.lonewolfdist.com/4882/10mm-45acp-barrels/aw-20l10

https://www.glockparts.com/custom/AW-20L10.htm

you have choices and yes thats what I did, (went with a 10mm 6" aftermarket barrel)

not my gun in the picture but they look identical

btw, 6" aftermarket glock barrels are fairly inexpensive and are in many cases,
are designed to provide both traditional land and groove rifling that is more accurate with cast bullets,
and the tighter chambers are designed for better case head support.
https://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=920324

https://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=920322

 

[rlphvac]

I like both advantages of the Lone Wolf BBL especially the case support I had a 40 cal go south before I knew about the Glock bulge I have converted both my 40 Glocks and my 40 CZ all to 9mm I still have a couple 40 only guns but they are much better supported than the Glock and the CZ chambers

 

[rlphvac]

I like the fact you are running a 6 inch bbl do you notice any real difference in shooting it it has to have better ballistics than the original bbl I think thats the 1 that I will get for mine Thanks Grumpy

 

[Grumpy]

At least in my case,
with cast bullets in the 10mm glock,
its a bit more consistently accurate,
and it gains about 60 extra fps with the extra inch of barrel length,
and different rifling design

 

[rlphvac]

Did you just change the Barrel or did you replace the recoil spring and guide rod with it?