TBucket 200-4R Transmission Project

Discussion in 'transmission and Drive train' started by Indycars, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. Indycars

    Indycars Administrator Staff Member

    Put 4 forward gears in it and a lockup torque converter, then shorten it to the same length and I will buy one !!!
     
  2. JohnHancock

    JohnHancock Well-Known Member

    Have you considered it may be that junk MSD? Lol
     
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  3. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    4L80E
     
  4. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Its Junk now that 200R4.
     
  5. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    4l80e full manual with no computer:
     
  6. Indycars

    Indycars Administrator Staff Member

  7. JohnHancock

    JohnHancock Well-Known Member

    I think the 200 4r can survive in a 2000 lb. bucket just fine. It was ok for 5 years and just died when subjected to non-normal events. When we get the trans apart all will be right with the world.
    I’m so confident I’m sticking to my plan to back up a blown big block with one.
     
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  8. Indycars

    Indycars Administrator Staff Member

    I think that's call a MISTAKE ! :)
     
  9. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    If you go to the previous page Grumpy posted HIS OWN LINKS TO THE 4L80E.
    You can Fab.
    Bob in Texas is an expert Welder.
    Not being an asss....but I have driven my 1963 Grand Prix close to 20,000 miles. Turbo 400 trans in it.
    No Overdrive.
    130 mph GPS Speeds.
    You Tube Video of me going 120 mph.
     
  10. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Yours will last 1 week or less with a 200R4 Big Chevy Supercharged.
    Be in the same boat.
    Good Luck.
     
  11. JohnHancock

    JohnHancock Well-Known Member

    It lived behind the turbocharged v-6 in the grand nationals. Now with aftermarket updates I hope you are wrong. We’ll see.
     
  12. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

  13. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    Figure a Supercharged Big Block Chevy will put out a Solid 700 Ft/lbs torque to 1500 ft/lbs depending upon 454 - 632 cubes.
    550 -2000 Hp.

    Like I said.
    Good Luck.
     
  14. JohnHancock

    JohnHancock Well-Known Member

  15. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

  16. Indycars

    Indycars Administrator Staff Member

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    John came over and with 10 tries he finally got the Forward Clutch apart, below is how John did it !!!

    Some TIG welding rod shaped to provide a hook to attach a come-along to. I provided the aluminum
    channel to put across the bellhousing needed to attach to.

    FP06_ForwardClutchHousingRemove(618)_00648.jpg

    FP06_ForwardClutchHousing(618)_00650.jpg

    As I suspected the clutch plates had been friction welded together. That's why it required such a
    large force to remove the Forward Clutch Housing (FCH) (618).

    FP06_ForwardClutchBurnt(618)_00652.jpg

    FP06_ForwardClutchPlatesBurnt(626)_00654.jpg

    The clutch plates below are not just lightly stuck together, not even prying on the tabs with a
    screwdriver would NOT break them free.

    FP06_ForwardClutchPlatesBurnt(626)_00657.jpg


    Amazing how much damage 3 little washer can cause when in the wrong place. Damn what
    a cluster F, I executed !!! Both in time and money, this won't be cheap to fix.

    The FCH ($350) got so hot that it turned blue on the outside surface, so I'm wondering if it will need
    replacing. If so then that means machine work will be required, raising the cost even higher. Oh then
    there is a all friction and steel plates thru out.

    I have a call into Chris at CK Performance where I have purchased all my parts so far.

    http://www.ckperformance.com/List/GM-Transmissions/2004R

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  17. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    It did not happen during engine repairs recent.
    Trans was hurt bad prior.
    Fate sealed recent.

    Alternatives.

    This 200R4 I would not trust no more.
    T-400 Brodix too powerfull.
     
  18. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    I hear Taps Playing Rick.
     
  19. Maniacmechanic1

    Maniacmechanic1 solid fixture here in the forum

    "Taps" performed in Arlington National Cemetery (…:
     
  20. Loves302Chevy

    Loves302Chevy "One test is worth a thousand expert opinions."

    That sucks Rick. Sorry for your loss.

    Is there any room in your T-bucket for a Gear Vendors Overdrive unit?
     

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