"The 14 Car" Performance therapy project

Are you using larger fuel lines now? 5/8" is big! What fuel pump are you running

When I build a new engine with more power I'll be putting in a new fuel system also at the same time. Probably use all 1/2" tubing with a RobbMc pump to get away from running an electric pump. I've been running a Holley blue.
http://www.robbmcperformance.com/products/pontiac1100.html

When I do that I'll probably have to buy a new Hydramat to switch from the 3/8" to 1/2" fitting.
I have 1/2 " Mororso aluminium line ran most of the undercarriage. Held up with Earls Bunya Rubber liner steel clamps.
Did not follow the factory way of routing.
Too many 90 degree bends as you recall on your '70 Bird.
I made a straight shot along Right hand inside rocker panel.
There is a Mallory Comp 140 Gear Rotor Fuel Pump. A matching Mallory Comp Pro series Fuel filter with replaceable cartridge filter.
Along the RH Bolt in wheelhouse fender I used a special Earls fitting to adapt onto the aluminium line with # 8 AN Braided stainless steel fuel race hose.
Then plumbs to my Fuel pressure regulator. Then to the carb. Autometer fuel pressure guage used too.
On backside of hood. Always in view driving.

Using the the stock Fuel pickup yet.
Weak link but worked in past.
Noted 1/2 psi drop WOT In 4th 160 mph.
Compensated by increased fuel pressure at idle.

Also have a giant Mallory Comp 110 EFI Pump. Pumps mega volume fuel even at 100 psi working pressure. Can use on Carb apps.
Return style fuel system pump.

Also have my Bo Laws Belt Drive Fuel pump. What I want really on my T/A.
Handle 1400 HP Fuel needs on gasoline.
Have to figure out how to mount it up yet.
Think it can be done pretty easily.
 
Yup, sounds like you've got a pretty good system and the 5/8" pickup will help reduce strain on the pump under extended full throttle.
 
Yup, sounds like you've got a pretty good system and the 5/8" pickup will help reduce strain on the pump under extended full throttle.
It could be better '70 Bird Man.
Its Run what you Brung.
Kinda day by day here too.
Always try to plan ahead.
Been hoarding goodies like you have likewise.
Bad thought put into Fuel systems the #1 Cause of Engine failures in drag race world. WOT Engine lean...1-2 seconds later you lost the engine.
 
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New gas tank I picked up a few winters ago for the '70 TA Birdman.
Left over scrap 5/8" stainless .095" tubing I found this morning.
Bends don't have to be exact in the gas tank.
Just pickup fuel.
Might as well add a return line while I am there.

I also can mount the main feed line almost anywhere to pickup fuel.

Should work fine with Minium of 5 - 7 gallons fuel in the tank.
 
Looks good! And yep I'd add a return. I've been running a Holley Blue dead headed. Not the best setup but hopefully I'll get the fuel cell install fairly soon after I get through the major rebuild and recover a bit.

Back in the 70's when we ran air shocks with big and small tires on F bodies I always noticed the crappy job GM did on the pinchweld under the rear splash pan because the rear of the cars were jacked up. Well those fugly looking pinch welds are still there on most of the cars and haven't gotten any better. They got bent on ice mounds in the north, rusted, repainted without being sanded smooth or stripped, and so most look worse than they did from the factory. I'm going to make a rear diffuser for my car and folks will be looking under there taking pics etc. so I figured now's the time to even it up and make it more presentable and finished looking while getting the whole tail section in final primer.

So I gave myself a guideline and used a 4 1/2" cutoff disc to cut a thin slice off. Then ground it pretty even with a 4" grinder stone, filed it straight, and got rid of the sharp edges.



 
Wow better than New Bird Man.
Yes the rear tailpan pinch welds don't look that great.
I don't have the balls to do the same on my T/A.
 
There's a certain value in keeping things like that original on one of the more valuable real TA's and your car's value has been going up faster than almost all the TA's that followed so I'd keep it factory anyway. An Esprit like my car? Who really cares if I trim the pinch weld off, even the purists would probably let me slide ahahaha.
 
With the rear of the car in final primer I spun the car around (Go-Jacks are awesome!) and turned my attention to lining up the doors and front end sheet metal. I'd loosely assembled everything to determine if I'd be able to use the 81 subframe, 70 steering, and 70 core support with the solid body mounts. There are differences in the subframe front horns that affect the position of the bumper brackets and steering but with various modifications it looks like I should be able to get everything to fit.

The door hinges were installed bare metal to bare metal at the factory on the 2nd gen F body cars I've worked on. If the area where the hinge mounts is covered in primers/paint it's a lot more difficult to line up the doors because the paint sticks together when the bolts are snugged or tightened. Then if you try to move a hinge just a little while aligning things it usually jumps farther than you want it to move once you get it to pop free.

So I sand down the area on the cowl and door as well as the hinge surfaces to make adjustments easier. Then because I'll be leaving the hinges on the cowl when the doors come off for the cut ins I sanded down the final primer that was already there to 320 for paint because it's easier to sand without the hinges in the way (they'll also get the Scotchbrite scuff before paint).

Once sanded, a little spray lithium grease gets shot inside where the plate slides around in the cowl and door and a thin film of grease where the hinge touches the cowl and door. This allows easier adjustment of the doors and a bit of corrosion protection. Careful attention to keep grease off areas that will be painted is a must and after the hinges are mounted wax and grease remover used all around hinges to remove any possible residue.



 
Awesome Tips '70 Bird Man.
I will try and remember your TIPS.
 
Here's some more tips Brian! Spread the word on this one I'm tired of seeing cars like ours assembled wrong.


I'm currently working on front end assembly/panel alignment and some fender vent aero mods I'll talk about in my next progress post. However I've been wanting to post about this problem unique to 70-73 bird's for years and today's the day!

Soapbox time! 70-73 Firebird front bumper and panel alignment.
I was a car guy teen when these cars were new and been researching/studying the bumper mounting , panel fitment, and the gaps for the past 25-30 years since my stepson got his first 70. Most of the 70-73 front ends on birds I see now have not been assembled/aligned correctly. THE FRONT BUMPER IS NOT SUPPOSED TO TOUCH THE FENDERS.

There is supposed to be a gap. It's wider than people want to see. Nobody likes it, not even the folks at Pontiac liked it when they were new. As you can see in the pics below the marketing people at Pontiac photoshopped (was that a thing then?) the gap between the fender and bumper right out of some of the pics in the 70 brochure because it looks "funny".

I see many beautiful cars where the owners have taken every step they can, buying NOS and correct original pieces for crazy prices just so they know they've got the right stamping's, date codes, etc. only to see the whole front end isn't panel aligned correctly. I feel bad for them because they just don't know. To me it's almost like hearing someone say they've got a "Big Block" Pontiac.

Soon after these cars were built they started getting in accidents etc.requiring bodywork and paint. IF the person took it back to the dealer the shop might have put the bumper back on correctly however many shops might just try to eliminate or reduce the gap if they even knew there was supposed to be a gap. It's been over 45 years since these cars were built and so even a body man who was in his 20's is probably retired even if he was a body man his whole life. So the folks who've been repainting these cars the past 30 years or so probably never even saw these cars new and don't realize the bumper isn't supposed to touch the fender. Most in the restoration/ body repair business now never saw these cars before they started being reassembled wrong so they try to split the differences and make the panel alignment/gaps look as good as they can with the bumper tight to the fender because they never even saw one with the correct gap. The misconception has gone on so long now that the majority of the cars I see now are assembled wrong and look kinda wonky but few realize why. The poor panel alignment is often attributed to the lower quality sheet metal stamping of yesteryear.

The subframe, bumper brackets, and bumper (as a solidly bolted structure) were isolated from the unibody,fenders, core support, splash pan, and core support/latch brackets (again solidly bolted structure) by 8 rubber bushings allowing the 2 sections to move slightly independent of each other. 4 rubber body mounts, 2 rubber core support mounts, and the 2 rubber upper bumper mounts. This allowed movement of the two structures individually and so a gap was needed between the fenders and bumper to prevent the bumper being deformed on uneven surfaces and when the car was jacked up. When the first urethane bumpers arrived on the 69's they put a rubber gasket between the bumper and body and people didn't like it so in 70 they reduced the gap and left it open.

The gap needs to be roughly 3/16" - 1/4" on most of the cars to get everything lined up as well as can be keeping in mind that factory stamping and tolerances of early 70's cars was nothing like today's cars.
In this first page from the brochure you can see that the marketing guys made the gap disappear on the passenger side of the upper image while it is clearly seen on the lower image.


On the page below you can clearly see the gap, note the front of the hood lines up with the front of the fender.

Apparently the marketing folks figured the gap showed up waaay too much on a white car.

Pic below is exaggerated to show how the body lines and fitment get screwed up. Think of it as taking a slice out of a cone and then trying to mate the remaining pieces. The gap needs to be roughly 3/16" - 1/4" on most of the cars to get everything lined up as well as can be keeping in mind that factory stamping and tolerances of early 70's cars was nothing like today's cars. When folks try to have the bumper touch the fender it causes problems aligning the front end sheet metal. Several problems arise and folks try to juggle all the pieces to minimize the affects but the pieces won't line up well so the common thought is "They just didn't make the cars very good back then"
These are the most noticeable effects of trying to have the bumper touch the fender.
1. The hood sticking too far back toward the windshield and sticking up even when the hinges are adjusted to the max trying to lower it.
2. The middle of the hood arches above the fender. Commonly attributed to the "Formy arch" or lousy hood springs. It's actually also caused by the hood being too far back and the arch of the hood not matching the arch of the fender.
3. When the bumper is tight to the fender people pull the fenders in toward the hood trying to get the points on the top of the bumper to line up with the top of the fender. this causes too small of a gap to the hood and often the car gets assembled without the side rubber hood bumpers because they push the hood up causing the mid hood arch to be off even more with the fender.
4. When the fenders are pulled in, the bottoms of the fender get pulled in afterward when trying to get the side of the fender to curve like the side of the bumper. Then the splash pan seems like it's too long.
5. The side body line will be off because when pulling the bumper tight to the fender it also gets raised to have the top of the bumper flush with the top of the fender. So the bumper body line ends up slightly higher than the fender body line. Sometimes this gets "fixed" during bodywork with filling/blocking if the bumper is on the car at the time.

The crude sketches below show how the car is built. The main portion of the car is comprised of the unibody along with all the front sheet metal bolted solidly together (excluding hood because it's on hinges). It includes the fenders, inner fenders, inner fender extensions, core support, latch support, and splash pan. The smaller section includes the subframe, bumper brackets, and bumper (with lights and grills) bolted solidly together with the front suspension and steering attached. A third section is the engine/transmission bolted solidly together and "floating" on rubber mounts over the subframe.
The gap was necessary to allow the two main sections of the car to move a little independent of each other without damaging the sides of the bumper and paint on the leading edge of the fenders.. Even if you use solid body mounts the bumper still needs the gap to get the panel alignment correct because it was designed knowing the gap was necessary and the body lines needed to appear to flow over the gap.

Came across some pics on another forum that demonstrate how NOT to line up the bumper. This is a classic example of what happens when folks try to have the bumper touch the fender and don't know what they're doing is wrong. As an added bonus it also shows how the more flexible formy hood reacts. Don't worry, I'm not picking on someone's car that's being used like this. It's already apart for restoration.

The bumper below looks like it was installed while the car was on jack stands or a lift and they tried to have the bumper touch the fender. Then when they dropped the car on the ground the result was popping the paint on the drivers side of the bumper and a funny gap on the passengers. The hood was moved back so there would be a gap and the hood corners by the windshield probably got sanded off because they looked funny. The fenders were pulled in toward the hood in front trying to match the bumper causing the raised section of the Formy hood mid fender. Also notice the side body line of the bumper is now too high compared to the fender.

 
A fact I never knew '70 Bird Man.

My car was repainted in the 1980's.
It has lasted .
Does shine still.
Someday I will repaint it.
Never knew there was a 3/16"-1/4" gap on 70-73 front bumpers .
Explains why I had such a hard time realigning the front clip myself .
Its real close. Not perfect.
But gaps good.
Damn. .if I only knew.
 
Mine was shot in Laquer paint I was told.
Then clearcoated .
A touch of pearl dust added.
Can't notice till real close 6 inches away.
Not Chico.
Looks awesome all the time .
Polar White Paint Glows at night.
 
Interesting enough Birdman recalling thinking now...I don't ever recall the hood, front fenders, & front bumper moving around.
I installed bolt in Competition Engineering Frame connectors on my TA 1st week of 1994.
 
Closing off and filling all front bumber gaps on your '70 Bird Bird Man ?
 
Ya the front sheetmetal overhang doesn't move around and is very solid.

I've come up with a design to modify the CE style frame connectors. Mine are NMW but very similar. I wanted to reduce twisting and attach them directly to the rear frame rail. I'll post about them here when I get them welded up and test fitted.





Polar white 70-73's look menacing at night in dim light!

No I'm not filling the gap. I'm gonna wear it proud! I am going to seal off the core support though so the only air entering the engine compartment will be through the radiator. I've been working on aero stuff like brake ducts, custom fender vents, and extended air dam with splitter and wicker bills for the wheel flares. Here's a teaser pic.

 
One of the aero changes I wanted to make involves the fender vents. I'm planning on a splitter and pan under the engine compartment. So I need to evacuate the under hood air that comes through the radiator and reduce high pressure air under the hood that causes lift. Many have experienced the effect called "float" at high speeds (over normal highway speed) in regular cars and some models are worse than others. The 2nd gen TA fender vents help reduce that and I want to maximize the benefit.

So I began by doing some tuft testing on the stock vent with the screen removed to see how it performed. Then I made cardboard modifications to the vents and tested again. I spent more than a day on this process testing various configurations and came up with a couple modified vents that should help keep the air pressure lower under the hood. For a more detailed version of the testing and how the modified vents were made see this thread which just covers my aero mods. http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=71522.0

The stock TA vent has a hole with surface area about 15 sq. in. The screen in the stock vent blocks off about 5 sq.in. reducing it to 10 sq. in. and creates turbulence as the air tries to exit through it. As I went through the testing process I changed the angle of the leading edge, added wicker bills of varying heights and expanded the opening. The modified vents now have openings about 3 times the sq. in. with steeper leading edge and the design of the housings seem to draw a lot more air from under hood. One set will be used for Land Speed racing type events (less drag) and the one with the wicker at the leading edge will be for road course use (more drag but also more evacuation).

As I mentioned it was a long process and lots of variations were tuft tested. Here's a few pics to show a couple of the differences.
Stock vent with screen removed.



Modified vent below with steeper leading angle and stock opening.


Modified vent with wicker and extra slot opening below.


This version seemed to get the best results for evacuation with reduced turbulence. But it wasn't enough "better" to warrant all the extra effort I'd have to put in to incorporate strakes into my design.


Here are the designs I came up with and made. Will tuft test in the real world once the car is back on track. Top pic below is process. Then stock vent, LSR vent, and track vent.





 
Holy Crap 70 Bird Man.
Pontiac ROCKET SCIENCE .

Wish I could help more on the Aero mods but I lack the experience .

I am proud to be A 100 % Poncho Pontiac Guy still.
 
I read your Trans Am Country Forum board posts and others Bird Man.

Its going to take massive HP & Torque.
Myself I would not get too crazy with Aerodynamics.
We are Mechanics - your a Bodyman.
I know my limitations .

The best info I had read is to minimize the Parachute affect.

If you want to retain sidepipes they must be Huge for 200-240 mph LSR Goals.
5 .000" openings.
Need baseline 900 HP.
1500 HP at flywheel better.
 
To make the Massive HP Required we are limited by the Shaker hoodscoop.
Only the Factory iron Q-jet, Ram Air 4 & HO 455 Aluminium intake , Edelbrock Performer, & Old Torker 2 fit.
Torker 2 intake requires massive porting. Best for a pro to do.
Have WFO shaker base but still limited .
 
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